Which program has better spam protection: Gmail or WordPress?

Posted by Gary King on June 9, 2007
Categories: technology, web

medium.jpgI’ve recently been receiving more spam comments on my blog that have bypassed WordPress‘ spam protection program, Akismet, more often than usual. I marked them as Spam, which aids Akismet in detecting these types of spam again and protects other bloggers using Akismet’s service from these comments which currently bypass the filters.

wordpress.jpgI also commonly receive email in Gmail that are spam and that bypass the filters. The Gmail spam protection system works similarly to Akismet’s, in that they both use a network filtration system by relaying any emails that one user considers spam to all the other users; the more times the same email or comment gets marked as spam, the more the system will believe that to be true and protect the other users from receiving the same item.

I’ve reached the point in both Gmail and WordPress where the number of spam/day that I get in my Gmail and the number of spam/day that I get in WordPress are about the same; I’ve currently got 12140 spam; divide that by 30 days, and that’s 405 spam per day. In WordPress, I’ve got 6130 spam comments, over 15 days; that’s 409 spam/day. They’re nearly the same by now.

So, which program is better? I get the feeling that I’ve got more WordPress spam slipping through the filters than spam email. I’m feeling that part of the reason that this is the case is because Gmail is newer than Akismet. (Gmail and its spam service debuted on April 1st, 2007, whereas WordPress’ Akismet service was released on October 25th, 2005, about a year and a half later.)

The spam email that slips through are usually very hard to distinguish from genuine email; indeed, sometimes even I have to think if the email is genuine or not, because it’s not selling anything and there’s no attachment (like a lot of spam has, because they include stock quotes in attached images.) The spam comments that I receive that slip through are almost always sex-based in an obvious manner, so it baffles me that they would not have been marked as spam.

Akismet also previously identified all of the comments made from a friend of mine as spam! Even after continuously marking his comments as genuine, they were still marked as spam, so I eventually just made an account for him. But still, that was frustrating. In Gmail, I used to have a few false positives marked as spam, but that’s very rare now. In WordPress, the number of false positives that I get is near 0.

In conclusion, I believe that both services have room for improvement, but I’m extremely happy that they BOTH exist. They fight the good fight on two different fronts, and they are both very commendable services. I believe that Akismet can also be used for services other than blogs, so that makes it a great asset. Over at b5media, Akismet saves us a great deal of work because we have received millions of spam comments since we begun using it. Gmail probably has more spam emails than Akismet has spam comments because Gmail is used far more often, but Akismet will soon catch up. It’s only a matter of time.

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  1. David Saturday, June 9 2007 at 11:09 pm EDT #

    “So, which program is better? I get the feeling that I’ve got more WordPress spam slipping through the filters than spam email.”

    I think you’re just biased towards Google due to your hatred of Microsoft.

    Why is Gmail still beta?

  2. Peter Saturday, June 9 2007 at 11:35 pm EDT #

    Well, I’m also biased towards Google, so I tend to think Google’s spam filtering is pretty good. I rarely get a spam e-mail that gets into my inbox with Gmail.

    However, it really depends on how popular you are with the spammers. Like you, I noticed in the past month or so that Akismet has missed quite a few comments that were obviously spam. And, like you, I dutifully marked these as spam to help out Akismet. (I don’t get nearly as much comment spam as you though, since I don’t get as much traffic - just under 4000 spam comments per month over the past year)

    But I think I just get more spam through my blog than through Gmail because it’s more visible to the spammers. I don’t really post my Gmail around the web that much.

    One thing for sure: Gmail does filter much better than Hotmail/WLM.

  3. Gary King Sunday, June 10 2007 at 12:10 am EDT #

    David, I’ve never said I hated Microsoft. I use Windows XP constantly (I have no need to upgrade to Vista - yet). Anyways, you’ll soon learn that a large majority of my readers use Macs more than Windows, anyhow ;)

    As for Gmail being in beta, it’s so that you can’t complain about any issues since they can then claim that it’s because it’s in beta.

    Peter, spam companies sell the email addresses as well, so it would probably spread pretty quickly as well.

  4. Peter Sunday, June 10 2007 at 12:16 am EDT #

    I’ve had my Gmail address for over three years, so I still find that it’s pretty good that I don’t get a lot spam in it. Even the number of spam that Gmail *does* catch is negligible. But, like I said before, visibility does matter. I rarely use the address to sign up for anything, and only have it associated with services that I consider to be *essential*.

    However, with a website/blog, things are always visible. Heck, that’s the goal - for the thing to be visible. It’s almost guaranteed that if you start a blog, no matter how popular it actually is, that spambots will find it.

    I’m sure if I put a mailto: link on my website with my e-mail address the amount of spam would be different.

  5. Gary King Sunday, June 10 2007 at 4:51 am EDT #

    Peter, I don’t have my email listed on my site as well. I use Gmail when I sign up for services because of the fact that you pointed out, in that it protects my inbox from spam VERY well. So, your reason seems counter-intuitive to me :)

  6. Peter Sunday, June 10 2007 at 1:12 pm EDT #

    Hmm, I guess it would have to do with what your Gmail username is. Since spammer scripts often send e-mail to random usernames in the hope of getting a valid e-mail address, I’m guessing that this the difference. “Gary” and “King” are probably much more common than “Peter” and “Chng”.

  7. Gary King Sunday, June 10 2007 at 1:24 pm EDT #

    Peter, very true. No doubt about that. When I first signed up, I was skeptical about how much spam I would get. As of now, I’ve redirected ALL my email (I’ve got multiple email addresses) to that one Gmail inbox.

  8. Paul Butler Sunday, June 10 2007 at 1:26 pm EDT #

    I created my own anti-spam plugin that has protected my blog remarkably well. I get in the range of 10 to 30 spam comments per day, all of which are deleted by the plugin. The result is that I don’t have to spend any time maintaining my blog until I feel like posting. It works like a CAPTCHA, but the user doesn’t even know it is there.

  9. Gary King Sunday, June 10 2007 at 1:32 pm EDT #

    Paul, very cool! I’ll check it out.

  10. Peter Sunday, June 10 2007 at 1:37 pm EDT #

    Yeah, Gmail rocks especially when redirecting all your other POP3 accounts to it. Since you can label incoming e-mails you have the option to keep things separate, and as a bonus, if your POP3 provider doesn’t implement effective spam protection, Gmail will do it for you :)

  11. David Sunday, June 10 2007 at 5:43 pm EDT #

    Sure you don’t hate Microsoft ;) I totally believe you.

    That’s abuse of the word beta.

    I just noticed that you’ve got a small smiley face at the bottom of your pages.

  12. Gary King Sunday, June 10 2007 at 6:38 pm EDT #

    David, the smiley face spies on you.

  13. David Sunday, June 10 2007 at 8:02 pm EDT #

    Hey, the smiley face is gone now…

  14. Gary King Sunday, June 10 2007 at 10:20 pm EDT #

    David, it’s a conspiracy! :o

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